Absolutely, they're not all bad, which is why we actually have an amount of essential fatty acids, and fats and oils, included in our pattern. But when we focus on fat and reduced fat in dairy and meat, what we're doing is attacking saturated fat. That's what that's about.
When we go into grain products and we focus on foods that are low in fat in grain products, that's directly on the trans fats.
It's not that we're not using these words. In fact, one of the things we do is take advantage of one of the most important public health tools this country has created, in the form of the nutrition facts panel on all foods. We say it's important when you're choosing foods. The quality of foods and the energy that your foods bring is absolutely essential. So what you do is look at your food label and take seriously saturated fat and trans fat.