Oh, absolutely. The products that tend to be high in calories are the products that are either high in saturated fats or high in trans fats. All I'm saying is the caloric value is not that different between a trans fat and a saturated fat. The difference is that one of them also has this other huge, not passive but active, activity that makes it worse for coronary heart disease.
Our children are at huge risk because they're eating junk food. A lot of that junk food has both saturated fats and trans fats in it. So inasmuch as reducing our fat intake and our sugar intake is critical for childhood obesity, the distinction between trans fats and fats for obesity is marginal. What we're saying is, trans fat not only contributes to obesity because it's a fat, but it also, over and above that, six times worse, contributes to coronary heart disease.