Perhaps I can clarify something as well. With respect to the Danish recommendations, by lowering it to 2%, they could not include mixed foods. By mixed foods, I mean foods with natural trans fat and processed trans fat. In Canada we have an awful lot of mixed foods that are sold at retail, every pizza or pot pie. We wanted to make sure that we captured all mixed foods, because we eat a lot of them, and the 5% captures all mixed foods. So they're tied by the output level, even if they contain natural trans fats. We felt that was very important.
Dr. Stender did say that could they change what they have done, they would do what we're doing. The other thing is that he made it clear that when they changed, they changed holus-bolus and nobody noticed the difference.
The only other thing I'd add is that in Quebec there is a restaurant chain known as Pacini. I don't know whether you know of it. They assumed the regulations were coming and so they changed all 320 of their products, I think it was, to be trans fat free. It was not 5%, but trans fat free. They worked with the University of Montreal, I believe. They did it over a one-and a-half-year period. They can't claim it. There are no claims. It cost them, they said, in the first year 3% of their budget. They did not pass it along to consumers and their consumers have never noticed the difference in taste. We were very, very struckâMy co-chair and I met with the restaurant chain, and that said to us, if you want to do it, you can do it.