With respect to the audit request, the last audit was done in 2002, if my memory serves me right, and a lot of federal dollars are going to the provinces and territories on health care. You have to realize that Health Canada is the sixth-largest health care employer in the country, so we need to know where our dollars are going.
You're right that there has been progress made in wait time management, but a lot of it has been in managing the wait list itself. We still have physicians and specialists who keep their wait time lists on post-it notes. We need a lot more computerization, etc. We have in Canada, through Health Canada, an advisory committee on health development and health human resources. It is a pan-Canadian committee. They need to go further than the bureaucrats. They need to involve the stakeholders. They need to involve the people around this table so that they know what's going on. I have to give credit to HRSDC. They've gone into rural communities. We have a project in Regina, which is not rural. We have another project in Cape Breton, though, for the skills upgrading of nurses, and we have a big one in front of Health Canada to do more of that.
You and Monsieur Malo are saying that there's good news, but it's not transferring to the regions. It's stuck at the bureaucratic level, and we need to implement the stakeholders throughout. We have to make sure that what the minister hears is what the CEO of a hospital and the nurse on the floor hears. Everything has to connect, and to do it we have to work together.