Evidence of meeting #2 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ndp.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Georges Etoka

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Okay, we have the first round done.

Mr. Carrie's suggestion for the five-minute second round is Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, and Conservative.

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Some hon. members

No.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

That is defeated.

For the second round we have Dr. Bennett's suggestion, which is Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, and NDP.

Is that correct, Dr. Bennett?

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

On the second round?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Yes, on the second round. We're talking about the five-minute second round. You suggested Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, and NDP. That's what we're voting on.

Oh, boy, we're tied.

Bloc, you did not vote, correct? All right.

What do we do now?

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The Clerk

The third option.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

The third option for the second round is Mrs. McLeod's: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and Conservative.

Oh, my goodness, you guys. I guess it's at the discretion of the chair.

Okay. I'm going to try this one more time, to give you one more chance. Have a think on it. Take a deep breath. The first one is this: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and Conservative, which is Mrs. McLeod's. Who's in favour of that one?

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Could you repeat that a little bit more slowly, please?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

I could. Do you want a piece of cheese, Mr. Carrie? I need one.

Okay, slowly: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and Conservative. That is Mrs. McLeod's suggestion.

Mr. Carrie.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Just a minute. I'll interpret this for a second. There are 11 spots we're recommending.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

If you'll be patient, we'll just wait a minute.

Okay. Thank you. Is there Valium? No? Okay.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

You heard that?

Are you ready?

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Can I make a point?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Absolutely.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

With that, out of 11, we're ending up with three Liberals and four Conservatives. The Bloc has two and the NDP has two.

That was your suggestion?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Mr. Carrie, what is your suggestion?

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

It's Madam McLeod's suggestion.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Yes.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

What you're looking at, then, is that the opposition has 7 out of the 11 spots, which is clearly a majority. The Conservatives have 4 out of 11.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Okay, I think--

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NDP

Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB

Do you want to put Ms. McLeod's amendment again?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Mr. Carrie, I'm going bring up your point about the count. Mrs. McLeod said: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and Conservative. What Mr. Carrie has said is that the opposition gets 7 out of 11 questions and the Conservatives have 4 out of 11.

Mr. Carrie.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

If I could make a friendly amendment to Mrs. McLeod's motion, if we add one more Conservative spot, that would give the Conservatives 5 out of 12. The Liberals would have 3 out of 12. The Bloc would have 2 out of 12. The NDP would have 2 out of 12. The opposition would still have 7 out of 12, which is clearly the majority, and the Conservatives would then have the two last spaces. If we don't get there, we would be the ones who would lose out, but we would still get the first choice on the third round.

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An hon. member

Where are you putting the other one?