Evidence of meeting #23 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chemicals.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kathleen Cooper  Senior Researcher, Canadian Environmental Law Association
Michael McBane  Coordinator, Canadian Health Coalition
Lisa Gue  Environmental Health Policy Analyst, David Suzuki Foundation
David Skinner  President, Consumer Health Products Canada
Gerry Harrington  Director, Public Affairs, Consumer Health Products Canada
Emile Therien  Past President, Canada Safety Council
Corinne Pohlmann  Vice-President, National Affairs, Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Ralph Suppa  President, Canadian Institute of Plumbing and Heating, Consumer Product Safety Coalition
Mel Fruitman  Vice-President, Consumers' Association of Canada
Andrew King  Department Leader, Health, Safety and Environment, United Steelworkers
Keith Mussar  Chair, Food Committee, Canadian Association of Importers and Exporters, Consumer Product Safety Coalition

7:10 p.m.

Department Leader, Health, Safety and Environment, United Steelworkers

Andrew King

You've opened a huge area, but I'll try to get really focused, to the point.

Again, I think the experience we've had historically with children and exposure to lead in communities is illustrative of the problems of trying to achieve what you're talking about, and there's also the need for a strategy that doesn't rely on getting to the end of the process when people are actually getting sick and you can actually measure the decrements.

There are some studies that have tried to do that in Canada. It's always on a big scale because you're dealing with a huge range. In one study in 2001, I think, looking at environmental exposures on diabetes, Parkinson's disease, neuro-development effects, and hypothyroidism, they looked at costs of $46 billion to $52 billion to the Canadian economy. But that's big-picture stuff. What we do know, and the evidence is in Massachusetts and their toxics use reduction strategy that they've had since the 1980s, is that if you mandate the progressive removal of the chemical, you will save costs in the long run and you will reduce the impact of those substances on human health because they're not there.

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Could you provide that study to the committee?

7:15 p.m.

Department Leader, Health, Safety and Environment, United Steelworkers

Andrew King

It was the Toxics Use Reduction Institute's studies on the Massachusetts program, so certainly that information will be provided. That's the closest we have.

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Mr. King, if you could provide the committee with those studies, I'd very much appreciate that. Just send it to the clerk and we'll distribute it to all the committee members.

7:15 p.m.

Department Leader, Health, Safety and Environment, United Steelworkers

Andrew King

Certainly.

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

We have reached the end of our rounds, and we've reached the end of what we have set out to do today. We do have a bit of committee business that we need to wrap up before 7:30.

I would thank all our witnesses for coming today. You were excellent, and we appreciate that very much.

I would ask all witnesses and people attached to the witnesses to please excuse us, and we'll just go in camera. I will suspend for one minute.

[Proceedings continue in camera]