The experience in a number of countries is that even.... We discussed things like 5% per year; those would translate into significant lives lost. I think Dr. Campbell is a better expert at doing the calculations, but the feeling is that that gradual, sustained, continuous change in the food supply over time is the approach to take. And that is the approach that has been used, for example, in the U.K. system. The working group has borrowed very heavily on its experience to develop the targets for Canada, or draft targets at this point.
On October 5th, 2009. See this statement in context.