Those centres were in Vancouver, Alberta, Manitoba, and the Atlantic provinces. Dr. Lamoureux from Quebec is on record in the press as saying that there has been no significant change in referral patterns in Quebec. In my conversations with Dr. Tracey, he indicated that he is seeing some recovery of referral patterns in the hospitals that were concerning him in southern Ontario.
Before this committee and the NRCan committee, I have stated my belief that we are seeing a real difference geographically, and that the centres suffering most in this crisis are those in the smaller urban and rural areas of Ontario.