Dr. Beaudet, I'd like to ask you my next question in the wake of Dr. Prigent's answer to my Liberal Party colleague.
Dr. Prigent said that everyone around the governing council table has a certain interest since they all belong to various organizations. You said in your presentation that the members of the governing council do not approve grant applications.
Have certain members of previous governing councils recused themselves at times when the council sat? If so, in what context? Can you elaborate a little on that subject?