I understand what the motion is supposed to do.
As we know, Judy, we're not really able to do anything other than express our concerns.
I am interested in what issues he will have to recuse himself on. I would be interested in finding out a little bit more about how he will function with this situation right now. He's going to be appointed. It's not going to be rescinded. So how do we, as a committee, make sure of the ethics of governing council? I almost wonder if we could be asking Professor Downie or some of the people who are very concerned about this to describe to us what would be an ethical framework for this man. Obviously they don't think there is one, but this would be in terms of making sure that recusals are clear and that they are at least outlined to us, as a committee, as to how this will go forward now that we've expressed our concern.
What might be of interest in the new year would be to have Dr. Beaudet come back and explain how he is going to work and what kinds of issues Dr. Prigent would not be included in.
It's not unusual that you have to recuse yourself. It's just that at CIHR it could be on an awful lot of the issues, if it were clearly articulated, on which he would not be permitted to.... This happens at cabinet all the time, and it's just that if you're eventually found to be out of the room more than you're in the room, it becomes less impressive as an appointment.