Fair enough, but my question has to do with, in fact, the governing council of the CIHR. There's nothing wrong with commercialization, nothing wrong with all kinds of advisory committees involved in drug companies and food manufacturers, whatever. That happens all the time, and we need the advice and the collaboration.
We're talking about the governing council. Surely to God you see the potential for a conflict of interest here if in fact you're so aware of these interlocking memberships and the interests that are involved.
Let me ask Jocelyn Downie--