Yes.
I'm quite prepared to take away any words that will delay moving on this motion or winning the support of the committee. I think it is important, especially in reference to Dr. Carrie's comments about his perception, that matters were clarified by the witnesses around the approval of the governing council. In fact, as I understand it and have just had clarified, the concerns of ethics were not resolved; they were set aside by the governing council and senior executives. So in fact there was no agreement and no full involvement of everyone in that decision. There are deep-rooted concerns within the institution, and I think that has to be pointed out as we pursue this issue.
I think the motion Carolyn is suggesting is that after those initial words that have to be there--