I appreciate your elaborating on it. Those are serious allegations. You have explained them to a degree, and we need to pursue that further.
I have another question, to both you, sir, and to Dr. Martin, perhaps.
I heard some testimony in the immigration committee about programs being provided by the federal government to help upgrade foreign doctors coming to this country. This would be in association with the medical associations, because you have to have the medical people onside to do this; it can't just be the federal government. As well, programs were being provided for other professions, such as engineers or what have you--not just doctors, but other professions. The comment was made, or evidence was presented--and I can't remember by whom--that the greatest resistance from the associations was from the medical associations. The most resistance to--