Yes. The issue is to provide opportunities to make healthy choices easier. Around schools, it would involve providing access to healthy foods and access to parks. On the roads, it would involve access to safe infrastructure.
It's not a matter of behaviour, because everybody is stuck on a road. I'm sorry. On est pris avec...
So when it's not designed properly for pedestrians and cyclists, it's really hard for drivers as well. The issue concerns, first in priority, civil engineers. I work with civil engineers—