In regard to your question on statistics, first of all, I have to refer to Paul Hills' testimony, where he said that once you get a call, it starts out with a small bobo and ends up with a big headache—and not the patient's; it's your headache. That's the reality all firefighters are faced with every day.
We're the ones who tell them, no, it's not a small bobo, it's a big headache, so get geared up for something else. That's the first question, but we don't have statistics on that.
Statistics-wise, how many firefighters were vaccinated or refused vaccination? Unfortunately, that comes down to a municipal or a provincial level, and there are no statistics. The Canadian association does not have that information, and I do not have it here.