Most of my interaction is with CIHR because they fund and all of my interactions with CIHR have been positive. They fund research. They don't pretend to fund commercial. They don't do that, so I have to go out and find venture capital. CIHR, as far as what it does, has been fine. I've had no difficulties with that.
All of my other activities are mainly with the commercial sector because ultimately innovation is an industrial process. Therefore, you interact with industry a lot.