I would agree it's probably in that same order of magnitude, the 70:30 or 80:20 perspective. If you look at most major developments that are out in the private sector, they've been developed under a kind of fundamental research. You do need to leverage that in, but that input from the private sector is still needed to give us some sense. If you go back to the CRIAQ model, a lot of it is pre-competitive R and D, where multiple industries come together and say, “Here's a problem we all have; help us fix it.” They bring the right partners in, and then they find the various funding models to deal with that.
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