The other way to look at it is there are technologies. You've got to be careful because for medical technologies in the cost environment we have here, doing more is not always good, right? You could come out with a new technology that allows cardiac bypass to be done that much better, and then we do 50% more cardiac bypasses but half of them are inappropriate. You've got to be very careful with health care technology. You want it to be used to achieve good outcomes, not just to be used, because with every use it's going to cost you more money.
On February 7th, 2013. See this statement in context.