I'll go back to Dr. Milne.
I live in Sparwood, British Columbia. It's a town of 4,000 people. In 2001, the hospital was closed. As a result, we went to our primary health care model. At first I was quite a skeptic—I was the mayor of the town at the time—but over time, it has really worked. What has happened is that it has forced people to educate themselves and to realize that they actually can do things by themselves without a doctor, unless they need to actually go to one.
I know that federally, Madam Chair, health care is not of our volition, as it is provincially, but how can we better educate people and say that primary health care isn't this scary thing that we shouldn't go to? In some places in British Columbia, they're saying, “I want you to tell me what to do, rather than me trying to figure out that, hey, this is not a bad idea.”