I will just say that we've heard of push and pull, and both things happen. We have scientists who work with industry because they want to make one of their machines better, and we have the engineers who can do that. Some of our most successful products right now are software improvements for companies that are selling the product. At the same time, the discovery comes from us and then we have to bring in the money. Both of those things are happening.
On May 21st, 2013. See this statement in context.