Thank you so much.
Ms. Brenning, I used to sit on the public security committee, and of course we looked at mental health issues in penitentiaries, and the answer we always got—and of course you laid out the same information today—was yes, in the system we have psychologists and we have social workers. But how do we really know that what's being done is enough? For example, it's one thing to say we have all these professionals, but do we have enough professionals? Is demand being met? Is someone who should be getting treatment from a psychiatrist being treated by a social worker? They would show up in the statistics as someone whose problem is being dealt with, but maybe not in the optimal fashion and the stat wouldn't show that it's not optimal. How do we know?
I guess the same would apply to any of you representing your particular department. We know there are staff available, but how do we know if there is a shortfall, if we need to do more, if we need to invest more? How do we know if we need to spend more so that the level of care is optimal? Are there reports or measurements? I can't imagine the government wanting to publish a report saying that we have mental health professionals in the prison system, but it's really insufficient. Where are we going to get this information?
Maybe we'll start with you, Ms. Brenning.