Evidence of meeting #1 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clerk.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Gagnon

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I missed that. I'm sorry.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

No problem. Did you want to take the floor?

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Sure. That was the last one. I missed that. There are time limits for witnesses' statements and for questions. The witnesses should be allowed up 10 minutes to make their opening statements, but in this case, if there are three, we're going to restrict it to eight.

For rotation by time, one Conservative member of the committee would have six minutes, one Liberal six minutes, one NDP six minutes, and another Liberal six minutes. In the second round, the Liberals would have six minutes, the Conservatives six minutes, the Liberals six minutes, the Conservatives five minutes, and the NDP three minutes.

Yes, Mr. Carrie.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Chair, in the document I received on the health committee work, during the questioning of witnesses, seven minutes are allotted for the first round of questioning, and in the second and subsequent rounds of questioning, five minutes are allotted to each questioner.

I believe that PROC adopted that timeline. I believe that what they put forward was that the Liberals would start first. It would be Liberal, Conservative, NDP, Liberal for the first round of seven minutes, and then CPC, Liberal, CPC, Liberal, NDP for the second round, which would be five, five, five, five, and two minutes.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

It works for me, but how does the committee feel?

Mr. Davies.

4 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I support Colin's suggestion, but my information from PROC is that in the second round the order is five, five, five, five, and three minutes for the NDP. That's what I have written down.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Is the second round five, five, five...?

4 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Five and three. So the second round is Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, Liberal, and then NDP, and it's five, five, five, five, and three. I think he said two minutes, but PROC has three minutes.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

In the interest of warm and fuzziness and co-operation, I'm happy to accept my NDP colleague's amendment to what I have put in front of you.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Yes, I agree with it too. In the interest of warmth and fuzziness and sunny ways, and all those sorts of thing, I agree with that.

I think we all bring something to the table, and I would welcome Mr. Davies' contribution on an equal footing.

What is your proposal again? Yours is the same as Mr. Carrie's, except it's five minutes for the NDP. Is that correct?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

He said three.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Three minutes.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I'd happily take five, but—

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

You might run out.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

He referred to PROC's proposal where it was five, five, five, five, and three minutes.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Is that all right with you?

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Again, I'd prefer five minutes. I like the equal footing, so I'd prefer that, but, if not, I'll happily take three.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

The chair will try to be fair. How's that?

The proposal is seven minutes each for the first round, and then for the second round, five, five, five, five, and three minutes.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

I just want to be clear on that seven minutes each. It's Liberal, Conservative, NDP, Liberal for seven minutes, so there are two seven-minute blocks for Liberal, one for Conservative, and one for NDP in the first round—

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Well now, let me see.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

—and the second round is Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, Liberal, NDP.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

The proposal by Mr. Carrie is Liberal, Conservative, NDP, and Liberal for seven minutes.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Seven minutes each, yes.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

The second round is Conservative, Liberal, Conservative, Liberal, and then NDP.

Is everybody in agreement with that? It sounds fair.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

All right, great; we have a changed rotation time, then.

Is there anything else that anybody wants to bring up at this moment?

Yes, Mr. Davies

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chairman, I have a few motions that are often made to supplement the standard routine motions. The first motion would be that all documents referred to the committee be sent to all members.