I agree with that too. In the past I talked to a few...I wouldn't want to call them “venture capitalists”. That's some of their frustration as well. I'm not slighting a researcher or a scientist, but they get very comfortable sitting in the laboratory and coming up with this, this and this. Instead of taking it from the lab and marketing it, they are just so content to sit there. There has to be a mechanism down the road, not to force them, but to compel them to get out of the lab and do some public good with it.
I also want to talk about something else, and again it's with no disrespect.
Dr. Nickerson, you were talking about collaboration and the need to get the universities together and the NGOs together and this together and that. The federal government can do that. I guess they can do it, but when I look at all these organizations, I see that a lot of them have government relations people, strategic people. Do they need the government to get everybody together, or can they get themselves together? What do you think?