I would love to have a president of McGill University here to answer that exact question.
We are making a lot of progress, but it's a slow progress, and universities have their interests as well. To be very honest, we sometimes feel that some universities lose sight of their social mission. What we found with some of the universities that we started this with in 2007 was that some of their concerns were whether they were going to lose revenue and whether there was a big cash cow that was going to come with massive royalty payments.
Actually what they found—and Yale publicly said this—was that introducing that kind of licensing had no impact on their bottom line, not one single bit of impact.
When I spoke to the technology transfer officer at Harvard University, they even said, “You know what has actually increased? Our abilities to license, because now there are different companies coming to us wanting to license. We have more openness to other companies.” It actually was a reverse.
We're very much hoping that in the coming weeks, there will be some major announcements here in Canada about universities as well, so please watch that space. I would like to make the report of UAEM available to you so that you can see these 81 alternative models that exist worldwide. It's a website, and I would be very happy to share that with the committee if that would be of interest.