I wanted also to add, in joining with everybody around the table, that we find this practice to be horrible. I think the minister has spoken quite strongly about it in the House.
I also want to advise the committee that both the Minister of Health and the Minister of Indigenous Services have written to all the provinces and territories and to the related medical associations asking them to cease and desist the practice. Those letters are being sent.
I think it also would be worthwhile to get those responses back from the provinces and territories, and from the associations. I think that would be an important part of a committee deliberation. Otherwise, if there's an agreement to cease and desist the practice, it really has become a bit of a moot point.
That's the only other thing I would add to the conversation.