Sir, if I could just stop it there, I'll delve into that in a minute.
In my point of view, an assault on someone is a crime, but what potential consequence flows from that is a matter for the courts. That could come later on.
If we're going to have zero tolerance and if health care workers are going to go to work with the expectation that they are free from being choked, spat on, assaulted, pinched or strangled, then, to me, we need to have some form of security presence there that is effective in dealing with that. We'll leave the judicial determination to others.
I want to turn now to the Westray principle, which is a very interesting point that you brought up, Ms. Silas. Has any facilities administrator in the country ever been charged under the Westray principle?