Evidence of meeting #15 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jamie Tibbetts  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health
Alain Beaudet  President, Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Paul Mayers  Vice President, Policy and Programs Branch, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Carlo Beaudoin  Chief Financial Officer, Office of the Chief Financial Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada
Mary-Luisa Kapelus  Director General, Strategic Policy, Planning, and Information, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Department of Health
Elaine Chatigny  Branch Head, Health Security Infrastructure Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada

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Vice President, Policy and Programs Branch, Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Paul Mayers

That is being met.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Okay.

The Safe Food for Canadians Act was passed by Parliament in 2012. It's still not in force. Section 68 of the act required an audit within five years to determine whether CFIA had the resources needed to fulfill its inspection enforcement work.

Despite the bill being in limbo, is there some sort of audit going on to ensure the safety of the Canadian food supply pending the passing of that bill?

4:30 p.m.

Vice President, Policy and Programs Branch, Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Paul Mayers

To be clear, the Safe Food for Canadians Act achieved royal assent in 2012, so it is passed. It is not yet in force. The regulatory framework that supports it has gone through the normal regulatory development and consultation process. It's our intent to present the regulations in part 1 of the Gazette later this year.

We fully intend to keep our commitment with respect to the audit, which will be within five years of the act coming into force.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Thank you very much.

Mr. Oliver.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Mr. Tibbetts, I would like to come back to marijuana and the pop-up shops that the hon. member identified. The Prime Minister of Canada and the Government of Canada has yet to introduce any law or make any changes to the existing legislation as they begin to think through legalizing and regulating the production of marijuana. The laws that are in place today are the existing laws that have been in place for many years, and medically available marijuana has been in place now for some time.

I was curious whether the previous prime minister or the previous minister of health, who I believe is now the leader of the opposition, ever provided funding for you to do inspections of the medical marijuana shops.

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

Do you mean the licensed providers?

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

The providers, yes.

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

We do fund that internally within Health Canada through allocations of around $8 million a year, I believe. We've been inspecting those licensed providers since they have been created. There are now over 30 of them in Canada.

There's a process for their application, their assessment, the security checks, the ongoing inspection of every point of their establishment from turning the lights on—

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

That's unchanged today.

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

It's unchanged. It's still the same framework that was in place under the former government.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

So pending the introduction of new legislation and new changes, it is the—

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

—status quo from the previous administration.

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

We will come in with options on that and then design our programming based on the direction of government.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Okay.

I'm really not sure whether my second question is for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency or the Public Health Agency, but the Senate recently released a study on childhood obesity and one of the highlights they focused on was the complexity in labelling for dissolvable sugars. There are about 17 or 18 different labels that dissolvable sugars can be labelled under.

They were looking for different food labelling, particularly to help identify sugar and a few other elements that lead to obesity in children. I know it's probably a small number, but is there anything provided in the estimates to deal with enhanced labelling, particularly of sugar?

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Chief Financial Officer, Office of the Chief Financial Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Carlo Beaudoin

The short answer is that we are doing some work on obesity and food safety, but really, the labelling side and the regulatory side fall under Health Canada, so I believe Mr. Tibbetts may be better placed to answer.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Mr. Tibbetts.

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

We are doing that work at this point within existing resources. We were studying this under the former government, actually, and we did put out proposals on how to regulate this in the Canada Gazette. We're now in the process of doing the consultation around those options, doing some comparison with the United States and the directions they've been taking, and are continuing the work that we have been doing in this area.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Okay.

Also, they had recommended very significant updates to the Canada food guide. I know it's several years old and it's very complex to read through, very hard for parents to really understand what is being recommended for children in terms of a proper balance. Is that also affordable under the existing estimates?

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

These are funds that are in our main estimates, not in the supplementary estimates, just to be clear.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

The main estimates....

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Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

Yes. We have an area within the health products and food branch that works with the Public Health Agency of Canada on the content and renewal of that document from time to time. It is under review, as it often is.

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Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Yes, I understood that. Is there a point in time when there will be a fairly substantive review of it and a new release that's more consumer friendly?

4:35 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Chief Financial Officer Branch, Department of Health

Jamie Tibbetts

Yes. I can't give you the specific date, because I don't think it's that targeted as a specific out, but it is within the next year or two that this will come together through, again, consultations that are under way with stakeholders and others.

There is no specific million-dollar project to do it. It is part of the normal operations of the health products and food branch and there is a timeline to get something done within the next year or so.