Perhaps I could add to that, Ms. Kwan.
I'm thinking outside the box. We've been approached by a group in Sweden and also a group in Kentucky. They have built facilities where the people are diverted from jail; instead of going to jail they go to these facilities. In those facilities they're very quickly encouraged to work. The state owns these things. They own companies like painting companies, catering companies, and whatnot. Then the individuals are given a sense of self-esteem and order. They have high productivity.
The guys from Sweden came and showed me that program, and it looks amazing. The same thing is happening in Kentucky. They have 2,000 beds in Lexington, where they have the same approach happening, and it's working really well. I think looking outside the box of Canada could be of use to us.