There are two options, and I hear stories of user fees as the health critic for the New Democrats. There's a proliferation of extra charges for diagnostic services across the country. I mean, there's a new MRI clinic that's opening in Saskatchewan. I hear stories of constant up-selling for people, let's say in cataract surgery, where for a little extra money you can get a superior lens. Quantum-wise, would you agree with me that this figure has to represent... I mean, the amount of extra billing or user fees in this country clearly exceeds the amount that the federal government is actually recovering. I don't quarrel with the general approach of trying to be collaborative, but I just want to get an idea of the quantum.
On March 21st, 2016. See this statement in context.