They have access to it, yes.
Cancer Care Ontario has a provincial standard in cancer centres of having a palliative care patient seen within two weeks, but that's in a cancer centre in a specialized centre, which I do believe is not where the majority of patients are going to be seen.
In order for us to do what we've done and see those patients in the community, we've had to employ doctors. I will say that palliative care is actually very cost-effective, because those doctors don't cost the hospital any money at all, other than maybe a computer, and hopefully they can get a place to hang their coat up. Those doctors are not ordering blood tests. They're not ordering X-rays. They are admitting patients and trying to get the patients back into the community. We can't really see where that saving comes, but we do know, for instance, that 60 patients didn't go to the ER and wait there. They went straight into hospital.
It's very difficult to understand how to measure the savings, when all of it goes into the black hole of the exchequer.