I'm so glad you brought that up.
The reason we did it that way was that two presenters had slide show presentations, and two didn't. We broke it down into two groups that way, and it didn't work very well. But we'll work around it and we certainly respect what you're saying and will try to do that for sure. But as I said, that was the reason we did that differently at that meeting, because two had slide shows.
The other thing, Len, is that you questioned me on cutting somebody off. She had taken 13 and a half minutes. We had four witnesses with four opening statements, and if I don't stop them, they go on forever, so I have a new system now. I'm going to use this red flag at nine minutes, so they know they have one minute left. I did cut her off, and I hated doing it, but if you give four or five minutes extra to each of four people, we've lost 15 or 20 minutes.
However, I'm glad you brought that up, Mr. Oliver, because I'm going to try to keep them at 10 minutes with this system. I do this and everything else, but they just keep on, and finally I have to interrupt them. I don't like doing that, because they usually leave their best points for the very end, and I end up cutting them off, so at nine minutes now they're going to get the red flag.
Dr. Carrie.