Okay, the time is up.
That completes our session for this morning. I want to thank all of our witnesses for your answers on a difficult issue and a troublesome subject really. I want to thank our U.K. presenters especially because you're taking the time out of your day to do this for us. It is very helpful.
I want to thank the technicians who did this. We have better video conferencing than CBC news has, I think. They have done a great job of connecting us.
Thanks very much, everybody, and we're going to take just a quick break and then we have a little committee business. I have to talk about witnesses for our next presentation, and I think Mr. Webber might have a motion, so let's just take a minute while our guests pack up and leave.