Evidence of meeting #56 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Méla

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I guess so.

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

The second one I would have a problem supporting because the words “direct and timely” are already in there. But the first one I agree with, that you can't expand the preamble without a change within the body of the bill.

Can you separate your ruling?

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, despite the back and forth, you've made a ruling. We're not here to debate your ruling. We should move forward.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right.

I've made my ruling, so that's true.

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I'm sorry, I have no choice but to challenge your ruling. It's incorrect.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right.

I move a motion to sustain my ruling. All in favour of sustaining my ruling? All opposed?

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Can I have a recorded vote, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Can we have a recorded vote.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

On point of order, if he wanted a recorded vote, wasn't he supposed to ask before the vote?

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I don't know.

The Clerk

Yes.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Okay. Thank you.

It's too late.

All right, that's amendment NDP-2. Now we go to amendment LIB-2. Again, it's inadmissible.

Mr. Eyolfson.

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

I'm not going to challenge the ruling. I would just like to say for the record why I had added this.

I'm in agreement that it's difficult to make this inclusive of the entire population. I found there were groups of people who are performing many of the same duties, particularly health care providers. A tremendous amount of our workforce is doing much of the same work. There are similar kinds of work in public health and safety which I thought should have been included. However, if the procedure says I can't make that change in the preamble without a corresponding change in the ruling, I understand that. I just thought it was important that it be added to the bill, and hopefully at some time in the future it might be amended.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

All right. Thank you very much.

The chair has ruled that out of order.

Shall the preamble carry?

Some hon. member

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Shall the title carry?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Shall the bill as amended carry?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Shall the chair report the bill as amended to the House?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Shall the committee order a reprint of the bill as amended for the use of the House at report stage?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Doherty. This has been an emotional one for us, and I recognize everybody's position. I do.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Mr. Chair.