It's interesting. We heard from one of the researchers from McMaster who said that after he had made a discovery of a new possible antimicrobial agent in some fungus in some soil from Nova Scotia, they needed $600,000 to bring it to market. They couldn't do it because, in 2014 or so, they weren't able to secure funding. Most of his graduate students—I think he said all—are leaving for the U.S.
I'm worried that we're losing our research, but more importantly, we're losing our capacity, our next generation of researchers, because we don't have adequate funding. Do you have a sense of what's needed as an investment into CIHR to regain our leadership role in health research in Canada?