Plant-based, absolutely. If you look at the Mediterranean diets or other diets that focus on plant-based sources, there is an association with improved heart health. As I mentioned in my testimony, this is not necessarily at the exclusion of some animal proteins. We know you can get nutrients from lean meat, unsweetened milk, and other animal proteins, so it's not their exclusion, but we do support the food guide's overall proposal to focus mostly on plant-based foods.
In our report on ultra-processed foods that was released last week, they looked at 13 different countries in Europe and Latin America, and those countries that had high rates of ultra-processed food consumption also had high rates of chronic disease, obesity, people being overweight. Once again, a major culprit is ultra-processed foods.