I don't think anyone here doubts that vaping is going to be less hazardous than smoking, certainly for smokers. The problem comes with the potential public health effects. What happens if these products are widely available, and people who never smoked start picking them up or ex-smokers start picking them up? Then they're going to become addicted, and some of them are going to move on to combustible cigarettes, and the whole epidemic is perpetuated. Those are the problems we're trying to avoid while maximizing the benefits that Dr. Ostiguy has referred to, whereby there is a potential for smokers who are unable to quit to at least have a somewhat less hazardous experience with satisfying their nicotine addiction. Once again, it's a question of balance. How can we get the benefits that are going to come from legalizing this product while guarding against the potential for harm?
I would further comment on what Dr. Ostiguy said earlier about how there hadn't been much problem in European countries with young people picking up these products. It should be noted that in most of these countries, advertising for these products is not allowed. Even in England, where some advertising is allowed and there's strong advocacy for the use of these products, the advertising that is allowed is much less than would be allowed under Bill S-5. Where there is a serious problem with young people picking up these e-cigarettes in large numbers is in the United States, where advertising for them is unrestricted. That is a situation we do not want to get into in Canada.