Mr. Chair, it's Sandy Buchman. May I just add something here?
In the long term, we need national health human resource planning, so I echo Dr. Drummond's words, but we have no national plan of how many physicians, nurses and other health professionals are needed. We have data, but we have no national entity that can put that together.
We have to plan for 10 and 20 years hence. We have a growing seniors population, of course, but we have about 10 times the number of pediatricians graduating versus geriatricians. It's really just to say that we have before us a major challenge, and that is national health human resource planning and introducing these innovative interprofessional models.