Just a point of clarification for the witness, Mr. Chair, Dr. Aylward has been invited to this committee. He has turned down the invitation a number of times. We actually had to put forward an official summons to have him appear.
That would lead me to assume that there hasn't been a sense of seriousness undertaken by the WHO to actually come to this committee. Any sort of pressure that Dr. Tam or Minister Hajdu could put on Dr. Aylward or members from the WHO to take this committee seriously would certainly be appreciated, I think, by all members of this committee, because we did vote unanimously in favour of having him come. We also voted unanimously in favour of the summons. I would hope that in the next conversations, in any conversations, Dr. Aylward would be encouraged to come forward to this committee.