Sorry.
Ms. Rempel Garner, go ahead.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Evidence of meeting #1 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
Mr. Chair, are you ruling this motion inadmissible?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I am asking for time to analyze the motion and determine whether it is, in fact, in order.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I do not give you that time. It is on the floor and it is in order. Are you deeming it in order?
Liberal
Tony Van Bynen Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON
Mr. Chair, my point of order—and it goes to Ms. Sidhu's comment—is that if my memory serves me correctly, as I think the record will show, you permitted Ms. Rempel Garner to respond to my motion, but you did not make a commitment to permit her to put forward a motion.
My thought is that if in fact that was the case—and the record will show that—then I believe Ms. Sidhu's motion should be before us, before Ms. Rempel Garner's motion.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
To respond to that point of order, Mr. Chair, Bosc and O'Brien actually does not support that particular analysis. You did give me the floor, my motion is in order and it's on the floor right now. I believe that we should be debating my motion, according to the rules, which I have right here.
Liberal
Sonia Sidhu Liberal Brampton South, ON
Mr. Chair, can we ask the clerk? If I raised my hand in the Zoom, I think I have the right to present this motion. This motion is very important for me, too.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I believe the problem is my mistake. I did give Ms. Rempel Garner the floor when I should have given it to you. That was my mistake. She did have the floor.
I'm going to focus on the participants' panel and whose hands are up there.
Mr. Kelloway, your hand is up.
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS
One of the things I was going to say, Mr. Chair, is to maybe refer to the clerk for his thoughts as well.
I appreciate Ms. Rempel Garner's motion on the table, but I need to be able to go through, line by line, anything that I'm going to vote on for my constituents—and for the constituents of Canada—to ensure that I'm aware of what I'm voting on. Every syllable needs to be reviewed by me. I would asked for that to be deferred, but I will defer to you and to the clerk and to others in this debate.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you, Mr. Kelloway.
Ms. Sidhu, I see your hand is up on the participants panel.
Liberal
Sonia Sidhu Liberal Brampton South, ON
Mr. Chair, can you examine the digital rules? Can you ask the clerk?
This motion is very important to me. I really want to present this motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you, Ms. Sidhu.
I wonder if the clerk would like to comment here.
The Clerk
Yes.
Well, the chair has recognized Mrs. Rempel Garner, so....
Can we just have a little chat by phone, Mr. Chair, just to make sure that...? Can we suspend for, like, two minutes?
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I don't believe the clerk can ask to suspend the meeting. Only you can do that.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I'd like to talk to the clerk anyway and find out what the straight scoop is on this. I will suspend the meeting for a couple of minutes.
Thank you.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you, everyone. We can resume the meeting.
I have not actually seen this motion in writing. It was sent a very, very short time ago. I don't think it's reasonable for me to rule on this order without fully being able to analyze it. I think it's very difficult for all of our members, on both sides of the House, to consider this motion. It's a massive, huge motion, and I think it deserves proper evaluation and analysis.
Again, I would like to defer that decision until I have a chance to examine the motion.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, there is no actual way for you to do that.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I mean, you can ask, but we have been prorogued for a long period of time. We can take as long as we need today for members to read it while we're sitting here. We have time scheduled. We have a full other hour. I know that I read a lot more in a lot shorter period of time than that.
The motion is in order and it is on the floor. People can debate it now if they'd like, but it is in order, and we should be moving to debate.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Well, whether it's in order or not is actually a decision of the chair. However—
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
As a point of clarification, Mr. Chair, are you ruling the motion in order or out of order?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I'd prefer not to rule on it at this time, because I haven't really had a chance to digest it, nor have any members of the committee, other than perhaps yourselves. However—