Some obvious candidates—and they'll probably be familiar to many members of the committee—are among our Five Eyes partners. Australia and New Zealand come immediately to mind. That's not necessarily because they had better intelligence capabilities or better structures, but for some reason they were just more alert to the past history of pandemics and things like SARS, which we should have been alert to. Those are a couple of countries.
Some of the other countries in the region, such as Taiwan and Korea for example, certainly did better and were much better prepared to deal with COVID when it reached out beyond the Chinese border. We have a lot of lessons to learn from our global partners.
Very briefly, one of the things that troubles me about our response is that we weren't attempting to learn those lessons in the early stages of COVID at all.