Evidence of meeting #46 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was documents.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-François Pagé
Daniel Therrien  Privacy Commissioner of Canada, Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
Philippe Dufresne  Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, House of Commons
Caroline Maynard  Information Commissioner of Canada, Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada
Michel Bédard  Deputy Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, House of Commons

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

On a point of order, Chair, I'm not sure what the point of order is or what the—

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Excuse me. I'm responding to the diatribe that went on and that questioned our intentions.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

This is a matter of debate, so....

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, in addition to that—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Ms. Rempel Garner, please hold up. I gave Mr. Davies extraordinary leeway. I think it's appropriate that we match that with Ms. O'Connell.

Go ahead.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I challenge your ruling.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I challenge your ruling. We need to get to the witnesses. I challenge your ruling.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, just to be clear, now members can't be recognized on a point of order if Ms. Rempel Garner doesn't agree. That's what she's saying here, that members can't raise a point of order. Only members that the Conservatives and their buddies being propped up by the NDP against—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No. I want to move on to witnesses. We're using procedure to do that—

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, we brought forward motions—

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Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Even before I was on this committee—

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Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

This is debate. We've voted on this. It's time to move forward.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

—HESA members brought forward motions on long-term care. We did again on May 28.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

This is debate.

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

We did it again today, because this is our last chance.

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Conservative

Chris d'Entremont Conservative West Nova, NS

On a point of order, this is debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Ms. O'Connell has the floor. I gave her the latitude—

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Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I have an opportunity to raise that as a point of order because misinformation has been put forward.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I challenge your ruling on relevancy.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you, Ms. O'Connell.

Mr. Maguire and—

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Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Mr. Chair, I challenge your ruling. Obviously, you may be allowing this debate to go on as points of order until we run out of time so that we can't get the law clerk here, who is ready and waiting for us.

Thank you.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

The chair controls Mr. Davies speaking...? Mr. Maguire, that's ridiculous.