Evidence of meeting #5 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
Mr. Kelloway asked that we reread the amended motion to fully understand it. Shouldn't we read it again right away?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
You're quite correct. I apologize.
Mr. Clerk, perhaps you could clarify for Mr. Kelloway and others the exact amendment that has been proposed.
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The Clerk
I will read it in French, because Mr. Thériault moved it in French. As I understand it, he wants to add “taking into account the availability of the Minister, and excluding the time slots of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.”
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Bloc
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The Clerk
“and that the same witnesses be invited to appear.”
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Thank you, Mr. Clerk.
Thank you, Mr. Thériault, for bringing me back on topic.
We'll go now to Mr. Van Bynen.
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Liberal
Tony Van Bynen Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This discussion now, then, is with respect to the amendment only. Is that correct?
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Liberal
Tony Van Bynen Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON
While I appreciate that there will be other meetings that could have a conflict here with respect to other committees, my concern is that we've been a long time planning this constituency week. There are a number of very significant meetings that have already been arranged by myself, and I'm sure by other members within this group to live up to their obligations to listen to their community and to their constituents. It would be embarrassing and somewhat disrespectful to our constituents to have to change all of those meetings to accommodate this.
My suggestion would be that we also allow for other commitments. I know there's a reference to a timetable, but why are we restricting it only to the justice committee? Should we not also be looking at the availability of other members of the committee and recognizing their commitments?
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Liberal
Tony Van Bynen Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON
Yes, I would. It would be taking into consideration the justice committee commitments, as said earlier, as well as other committee member commitments to their constituents.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
Mr. Chair, I think my name is on the list to speak next.
I apologize, as this is not meant to be a point of order, but can we please release the witnesses? We've heard from Mr. Thériault; we've heard from Mr. Davies, and we know the Conservatives want to reschedule this meeting.
Can we please just let these amazing people log off and go back to the amazing things they do?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Ms. Rempel Garner, I am speaking.
Pursuant to your request, Mr. Fisher, until we dispose of this particular motion, we don't know whether we will be able to call upon the witnesses.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
We have to deal with this first.
The debate at this time is on Mr. Van Bynen's subamendment. Is there any comment or discussion on this subamendment?
I see Mr. Thériault.
You have the floor.
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Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
Given that Mr. Davies has clarified the meaning of the initial motion, namely to have the minister appear for two hours, and that Ms. Rempel Garner's motion proposes either to bring the witnesses back to the meeting or to excuse them from having to stay, I am very surprised that people want to continue the discussion rather than to vote.
What Mr. Fisher just said is happening. We want to move subamendments on subamendments. Out of respect for the witnesses, there should be a vote on the motion to see if they can leave the meeting. Mr. Van Bynen's intervention is contradictory and I will oppose it.
3:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
When we call the vote, you can vote whichever way you please. It is the prerogative of the members to speak on motions and subamendments and it is their privilege to do so.
Is there any further discussion on Mr. Van Bynen's subamendment?
Seeing none, I will ask the clerk to conduct the vote.
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NDP
Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC
May I have the question read as to what we're voting on, please?
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Liberal
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The Clerk
I have the French version here.
Do you want me to read the whole motion, or just the subamendment?
