Mr. Zivo is a columnist for the National Post who has dipped his toes into this for the past eight or nine months. Certainly, early in his writing about safe supply, he expressed his desire to burn the whole system down. I'm not sure that he's a terribly credible source of information that we want to rely on in this committee.
In addition, Mr. Zivo visited InterCommunity Health Centre, where he was a very bullying presence to my patients. There is a gate just outside my clinic door, three feet from my clinic door—