Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I'm going to ask my questions to both Jeanne and Linda. I need to know, from your explanations, the difference between state and non-state torture, because Canada does not recognize non-state torture. I'm sure everybody has heard about the young girl, who was raped and tortured at 11 years of age, Kerri Kehoe; and nobody believed that she was tortured. Nobody believed that she was raped. The rapist finally got arrested and was let out on parole. Kerri Kehoe is reliving her experiences all over again. How do we change the justice system in this country to realize that that is torture? It's not abuse; it's torture. If we can make it torture, we can increase the sentences so that these guys don't have an opportunity to get out of jail and revictimize the victims.