I'm sure there will be some people who come forward and propose that this is the place to do it. However, what happens, Mr. Julian, if we make amendments now to make a carve-out for something like nicotine pouches—I don't want to get into the pros and cons of nicotine pouches—is we set an entrenchment of the changes that have been made in Bill C-47 into law.
I think what we really should do is just pass the bill, go back to the drawing board, have a conversation with the industry and let the industry decide which way it wants to go at the fork in the road—or at least have a say in the matter.
As you said, I don't speak.... You'll have them as witnesses. The industry will come and tell you. I don't think they're going to defend nicotine pouches per se. My recommendation would be to go back to the drawing board by passing the bill and then going in a direction where the natural health products that are used for the health and well-being of Canadians can be separated from nicotine products.