Evidence of meeting #146 for Health in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was you're.
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Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
You're the one who's in power, Minister. You've been in power for nine years—
December 12th, 2024 / 4:40 p.m.
Conservative
Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
Your solution is cuts. Do you think that cuts are going to bring doctors and nurses—
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
It's been a year and a half to bring doctors, nurses—
Liberal
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
You're so disrespectful—and weak. You can stare at me all you want. Mean mug me all you want.
Minister, the rates of scurvy are on the rise, yet you're taking off the GST on pop and chips and candies while you are raising the cost of everything healthy with your carbon tax. What's your rationale for that?
Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
First, it doesn't increase the cost. Second, if you cared about scurvy, then you'd be talking about initiatives in first nation communities. The scurvy you're speaking about is in rural and remote communities. The policies that you have to deal with that are exactly nil.
Yes, I'm very frustrated, Mr. Doherty, that the Conservatives would talk about issues like poverty. You know, I was in opposition, and I watched, and you never talked about poverty. You never set poverty guidelines. You have no policies or ideas on poverty. In fact, your cuts will do devastating things to the very issues you're talking about, and I think it is dishonest and disingenuous when you—
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
Minister, you're the only one who's talking about Conservative cuts. The only thing that we're talking about is axing the tax for everyone, forever. That'll make life more affordable for all Canadians. The only ones who spew rhetoric and garbage are the Liberals and the NDP, the coalition partners. If you want to start telling the truth, that would be a novel idea.
Conservative
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
No, I didn't.
Minister, over 47,000 Canadians have lost their lives due to the opioid crisis. Your government has spent a billion dollars—
Liberal
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
Minister, what are your comments to people like Brianna MacDonald's family? All they've asked for is for the government to stop its decriminalization and its failed drug policies.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
You're 25 seconds over time.
Minister, please take 30 seconds to answer the question, and then we'll move on.
Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
Thank you.
As the first order, for any person—and I know you would share it in my heart, and you would share it in yours—who loses a family member, it is devastating. We need to use science, data and evidence to provide solutions, not emotions and not fake policies. We have to provide real answers, and that's what we will offer—true science-based, evidence-based decisions to save people's lives.
If you take scurvy—and I'll just finish on this, because you want to talk about facts—somebody who's so food insecure that they have scurvy doesn't drive around in a car. They don't pay the carbon tax, but you would take away their cheque. You would take away the benefit they get every single quarter that helps them pay for groceries. That's what you would do. You would leave them less secure and in a more vulnerable position.
Sir, those are the facts.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Thank you, Minister.
We're going to try Dr. Hanley again.
I think you got the thumbs-up on the sound check. You have the floor for five minutes.
Liberal
