The point is, Mr. Chair, that the minister has sat here for the last 45 minutes and has made a number of assertions against the Conservative government, without knowing any background or perhaps without caring about the background. I think it is relevant when we have a minister of the Crown travelling on taxpayers' funds and have somebody who is a proud Jewish member of the cabinet, whose daughter she introduced, who served.... She has also referenced, throughout her testimony, that she is a mother. She's brought that into her testimony.
Through you, Mr. Chair, I will ask her.... I can't imagine that it was a proud moment or an easy moment—