Yes, I would consider that unusual.
As I said in my opening remarks, I've met on multiple occasions with all previous ministers to brief them on guidelines reform—some ministers three, four, five or six times. I made multiple attempts to obtain a briefing with the minister or his office and received basically no response to those efforts.
As you may recall from Thursday's testimony, in her letter in response to the minister, dated November 30, the acting chair once again made a formal request for a meeting with the minister to talk about their two letters, and nothing came of that.