Going back to the earlier questioning about what did or didn't happen with the minister getting an invitation or not to meet with the PMPRB, to summarize, the executive director of the PMPRB reached out—at your count, in five attempts—to meet with the minister. The minister was careful in his wording last week when he said, “I never received an invitation from the chair of the board.”
In the past, you said that you've met with ministers Hajdu, Petitpas Taylor and Ambrose. Was it the same approach taken by you to get there, Mr. Clark?
I'll put a second question on that. When you didn't get a positive response to meet with the minister, did you perhaps reach out to the parliamentary secretary of health to provide a briefing instead?