That's the entire health care spending question.
I cannot answer that question directly. I can say that the policies that differentiate Canada from more successful universal health care systems are clear and stark. It is the attitude toward the private sector versus thinking about universal health care as a government only approach. It is thinking about the importance of copayments for tempering demand, which is something that's practised in pretty much every other universal health care country, even if it's purely within the public sector. It's how these hospitals are funded. Those factors are what dictate what we see in the more successful universal health care countries.
To give you an example, according to the Commonwealth Fund, 62% of Canadians reported less than four months for treatment. In Germany, that number was 99%. In Australia, it was 72%. In the Netherlands, it was 87%. In Switzerland, it was 94%. What puts these countries together? They all do universal health care differently.
I appreciate the discussions we're having right now. They will make an impact at the margin, but you're not going to see significant change unless you actually think about significant reform at some point.